klaatu

There are many instances where aliens or flying objects appear on old paintings or carvings. Below are some of them.

Drawing about 2,000 years found in a cave located at the Russian-Chinese border. We see a person in space suit holding a communication device in the form of a flat disc [left]. At the center of the drawing, another character, wearing a helmet with antennas, standing in a flying machine emitting a plume of smoke.

These three characters dressed in overalls, helmets, carrying thick glasses, were drawn here 5000 years ago in a cave of Aboriginal Australians.
[They look like gray don't they?]

[/INDENT][INDENT]This character looks surprisingly for a man with a space suit. However, this ceramic 25 cm high, discovered at the border of Ecuador and Bolivia, shows 3000 years of age ... A twentieth-century technology could be used and there is thousands of years goes against all that is known about the evolution of humanity.

Cave painting of a Neolithic cave in southwestern France with a host of wild animals of all sizes ... over by round and flat objects evoking UFOs. Three of these devices are evolving around a small humanoid figure with a strange tail (see excerpt below). Experts are unable to give meaning to this painting.

Near the region of Ferghana, Uzbekistan former Russia this design found on a rock conjures up the image of an astronaut from antiquity and was nicknamed "man from Mars".

Representation made of collective observation of a "UFO" over Basilea in 1566. A writer tells about what happen on 7 August 1566. From what is written, a group of circular objects appeared in the sky Basilea (Switzerland) and left at high speed towards the sun. Before disappearing, some of these circles have fought among themselves as if they were about to start a battle.

Baptism Of Christ bert DeGelder
The Baptism of Christ by Aert de Gelder (1645-1727). Details of the painting are as follows: Oil on canvas, 48.3 x 37.1 cm Given by Lord Alwym Compton, Bishop of Ely, 1905 PROV: Marianne, Countess of Alford, who bequeathed oit to the donor, 1888 Perhaps c. 1710.

CRUCIFIXION - Visoki Decani Monastery, Kosovo. This 16th century Crucifixion, a fresco in the Visoki Decani Monastery in Kosovo

Vincenzo Foppa

This painting by Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495) called "Annunciation".
Found in the National Gallery in London. A disc-shaped object in heaven (see closeup) sends down a thin laser beam, affecting Maria's head.

Anunciacion by Carpaccio

A painting by Italian artist, Piero del la Fransesca.
All characters in the image are looking to the left, but the picture real motive is in the sky where you can see alot of UFO-shaped objects.

This fresco from the 17th century found in Svetishoveli cathedral in Mtskheta, Georgia. See the two UFO-shaped objects on each side of the cross.

Ezekiel reported in the Bible about the Lord to descend to Earth in all its glory and start talking to him.
Joseph Blumrich, rocket-engineer by NASA, this image illustrates his idea of the Lord's spaceship in the biblical report.

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klaatu

A fourteenth century fresco of the Madonna and Child depict on the top right side the image of a UFO hovering in the distance. A blow up of this fresco reveals tremendous details about this UFO including port holes. It seems to indicate a religious involvement between UFO's and the appearance of the Christ Child.
This painting is called "The Madonna with Saint Giovannino". It was painted in the 15th century by Domenico Ghirlandaio (1449-1494) and hangs as part of the Loeser collection in the Palazzo Vecchio. Above Mary's right shoulder is a disk shaped object. Below is a blow up of this section and a man and his dog can clearly be seen looking up at the object.

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hitchhiker

Just a thought...There were times when it was not uncommon for an artist to paint a small detail (that actually spoils the entire meaning of the picture if you look closely) as a way of protesting for the fact that he was not paid for his job. I'm thinking about the XIV-XV century paintings...maybe some guys simply wanted to be naughty

klaatu

Aparently they agreed to be noughty in the same way, painting ufos

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This is a tapestry called Summer's Triumph It was created in Bruges in 1538 and presently resides at the Bayerisches National Museum. You can clearly see several disc shaped objects in the top of the tapestry.


Illustration depicts a sighting by two Dutch ships in the North Sea of an object moving slowly in the sky. It appeared to be made by two disks of different size. The source for this account is one of the books entitled Theatrum Orbis Terrarum by Admiral Blaeu. These books were compilations of articles by different authors and consisted of detailed accounts of long engagements at sea, cartography information, etc.


15th Century


Renaissance illustration of a UFO sighting in Rome detailed in a book by Roman historian Julio Obsequens.


This picture shows a UFO sighting over Hamburg, Germany. The objects were described as 'two glowing wheels' -
November 4, 1697 - Wheels - Spoked Wheels.



In this painting found on a wood drawer from furniture kept at the Earls D'Oltremond, in Belgium, Moses is depicted receiving the tablets of the Ten Commandments, with "flaming horns." Several equally flaming objects are in the sky before him. The date and artist are unknown.



"The Assumption of the Virgin" Painted circa 1490 by an unknown artist.
Saucer shaped "clouds" intrigue modern ufologists. Could so many have appeared in the sky at one time? Or, are the hat shaped UFOs depicted so numerous here to -punctuate- certain events as being particularly holy?

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Stardust

what trigs me more is, despite fact some of pictures are were made of thousand years ago all of them show the UFO in same certain way (disc shapes, grey humanoids etc...)
If agreeing on the idea that actually civilisations has been raising and falling since ages, existing not thousands but even milions years ago, that indeed it can mean some civilisations could leave in paralel (?) to some less developed races....

Just a Qn why it is so common in outlook? that brings me thinkng "everthing has happen before and will happen again" (like bringing us to certain developemnt and crash) - which sound a bit... boring.

OR since ages already there is group of people carrying special believes which they tried to pass since many years in a way that was possible in their times (here as a "play" with an observer of the painting). And that's how idea of 'an aliens' has been born till nowadays.

Although when i look at some pictures some quote remainds me from my work. In reaserch department we always hear " you will get what you measure" .
In here it can mean "u can see what u believe" ;]

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klaatu

Maybe UFOS are like cars. They all look more or less the same. Why?
Because of the aerodynamics laws, they moves faster and need space for engine and people, hence the space.

Why ufos are similar shapes? Maybe they work on a similar principle that we don't know at the moment and part aerodynamics. Or maybe is just a projection in our minds and nothing is real. Then what it will be if we go this path of thinking.

I will put a sign in front of my house: Free parking for aliens from 09.00 to 18.00 (I do need to park after I come from work ) Maybe I beat SETI program in finding aliens. Ha

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Stardust

Fair point when it comes for some "common" laws of flyig object (as so far we all live in material dimensional world which has its rules)

But those people who painted lived hundreds years ago... and if even now, being "civilised" and allowed to speak loudly what we believe, we tend to avoid or get read from mind things that doesnt suit common beliefs (and UFO is certeinly one of them).

They lived in times when speaking and noticing that kind of "stuff" could be seriously penalised... so what took them to acknowledge their observation at paintings? im pretty sure they haven's seen that many and that clearly objects as they present... And even if they would see probably they woudl do what vast majority is doing - rationalised, forgot, thouoght its just mirage etc .. So this what is placed on pictures defeinitelly has nothing to do with just simple play, or wish to eternalize smth unusual they saw...

so it looks for me more like kind of "cyrcle"of people sharing certain knowledge / belief...smthing more similar to mason / iluminati secret codes.. and the Qns is what is their "goal" to be achieved, assuming that their successors lives nowadays, passing same message in much more clearer form (pictures, videos, PR conferences etc)

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I would add additional note "buy tickets for window view on parking aliens" - to earn on new scripts for VA site developing

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Observer

Awesome!

afkdante

if this is real well awesome.
elders can live with aliens better than us

Observer

Perhaps the aliens (or time travellers?) roamed the skies freely in the earlier centuries because people had no weaponry yet to shoot them down?

Whatever ... the painting relating to Ezekiel's description of Cherubim (aka Merkabah, Chariot of God) doesn't conform to the description in the bible. Ezekiel clearly said "wheels that can move into any of the four directions", so it can be only spheres. So they were not rotors as imagined by that artist. People in the bible era were not dumb; I'm sure they recognized a wheel as a wheel. However, I'm not sure what Ezekiel was referring to with the animal heads he described.

Here's a link to Ezekiel's description.

p.s.: Also have a look at the bible passages about the . It was kept in a tent, and people had to wash themselves to avoid illness (radioactive device or material, perhaps). In that context, I'm also wondering what the in Mecca contains.