Aliens' proof existence in oficial religions

Stardust · 29-04-2009, 06:01 PM

Do you know how the extraterrestrial life is reflected in official religious?

Talmud states that there are at least 18,000 other worlds (didn't read yet assume they indeed says so… is there anybody who read? J ), and provides little elaboration on the nature of those worlds, or on whether they are physical or spiritual. Based on this, however, the 18th century exposition "Sefer HaB'rit" posits that extraterrestrial creatures exist, and that some may well possess intelligence. It adds that human beings should not expect creatures from another world to resemble earthly life any more than sea creatures resemble land animals.

Hindu looks like being closest to idea of multiple extarterestrials lifes. With their beliefs of endlessly repeated cycles of life have led to descriptions of multiple worlds in existence and their mutual contact (Sanskrit word Sampark means 'contact' as in Mahasamparka = the great contact).
According to Hindu scriptures, there are innumerable universes created by God to facilitate the fulfillment of the separated desires of innumerable living entities. However, the purpose of such creations is to bring back the deluded souls to correct understanding about the purpose of life. So – rather no chance to meet “real aliens” J

Aside from the innumerable universes which are material, there is also the unlimited spiritual world, where the purified living entities live with perfect conception about life and ultimate reality. The life of these purified beings is centered on loving devotional services to God – so we shall not seem them as well isn’t ?

Quran: "All praise belongs to God, Lord of all the worlds indicates multiple universal bodies, and maybe even multiple universes, which may indicate extraterrestrial and even extra-dimensional life.
According to Ahmadiyya Muslim Community more direct reference from the Quran is presented, they quotes verse 42:29 "And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and of whatever living creatures (da'bbah) He has spread forth in both..."; according to this verse there is life in heavens.
According to the same verse "And He has the power to gather them together (jam-'i-him) when He will so please"; indicates the bringing together the life on Earth and the life elsewhere in the universe. Whats more Arabic term Jam-i-him used to express the gathering event can imply either a physical encounter or a contact through communication.

Bible – Church of course never issued any formal pronouncement on the question of alien life , and nothing so directly written in Bible (?). But there were some “open minded” people like already in 1277, the Bishop of paris Etienne Tempier overturn Aristotle on one point: God could have created more than one world (given His omnipotence). Taking a further step, and arguing that aliens actually existed, remained rare.
The Catholic Church has not made a formal ruling on existence of extraterrestrials. BUT, the astronomer, Father Gabriel Funes, director of the Vatican Observatory near Rome, said in 2008 that intelligent beings created by God could exist in outer space (sic! couldn believe they can admit even possibility)

If you have find any more - share!

Carson · 04-05-2009, 10:05 AM

Ancient accupuncture from China reveals that "some" people could see the Meridians and Accupuncture points. And the most common of them are 365 (as much as the days of the year!). From that point of view, "they"taught human beings what to do and how to proceed in certain cases. Every human being is composed from information+energy+phisical body. Any kind of disease has an information and energy which affect (more or less) the human physical body.
Recentlly, archeologists discovered in ancient Dacia (former inhabitants of Romania) proofs about accupuncture needles made by silex so that it is almost unbelieveable that accupuncture existed in such different territories and any lecturer of accupuncture will tell you the same thing: there are teachings that belongs to an E.T. knowledge.
Also, a great number of scientists believe that in Bucegi Mountains (from Romania) there is one of the three energetic centeres from Earth.
Radiesthesy and long-distance therapy uses the colours of different human "envelopes" which means info (or infor)energetic body besides physical body as the lowest level of energy. Increasing the spirituality of the body, there will be an increasing of info(r)-energetic body and some certain subject will be able to increase and to be able to help others in need.
Carlos Castaneda and his master Don Juan speak about the difference between "to look" and "to see" and the ways for achievment this special skill. Also in their experience, we are told about some different colours that we may "see" if we are able to. After years of long and exhausting trainning. This state of special mind is called by shrinks "modified states of consciousness" and it is "evidence prooved".
Carl Gustav Jung (famous psychologist from Switzerland) made the connection between religion, radiesthesy and any kind of "unexplained" phenomenon by using the term of "sincronicity" meanind the outer information that may come into a human mind at a certain moment of looking for information. It may come or not, it depends on outer limits which we don't know and we can't control. In fortunate cases, the information will come when we need it, in a certain moment. What we have to learn is how we may access this information at the right moment and in the right time.

For all the facts exposed above, I may declare myself a "believer".

29-04-2009, 06:01 PM	#1
Stardust Member Skeptic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: best middle part of the Europe where people speaks my native language :) Posts: 78 Time Online: 2 h 32 m Thanks: 3 Thx 8 Times in 8 Posts	Aliens' proof existence in oficial religions Do you know how the extraterrestrial life is reflected in official religious? Talmud states that there are at least 18,000 other worlds (didn't read yet assume they indeed says so… is there anybody who read? J ), and provides little elaboration on the nature of those worlds, or on whether they are physical or spiritual. Based on this, however, the 18th century exposition "Sefer HaB'rit" posits that extraterrestrial creatures exist, and that some may well possess intelligence. It adds that human beings should not expect creatures from another world to resemble earthly life any more than sea creatures resemble land animals. Hindu looks like being closest to idea of multiple extarterestrials lifes. With their beliefs of endlessly repeated cycles of life have led to descriptions of multiple worlds in existence and their mutual contact (Sanskrit word Sampark means 'contact' as in Mahasamparka = the great contact). According to Hindu scriptures, there are innumerable universes created by God to facilitate the fulfillment of the separated desires of innumerable living entities. However, the purpose of such creations is to bring back the deluded souls to correct understanding about the purpose of life. So – rather no chance to meet “real aliens” J Aside from the innumerable universes which are material, there is also the unlimited spiritual world, where the purified living entities live with perfect conception about life and ultimate reality. The life of these purified beings is centered on loving devotional services to God – so we shall not seem them as well isn’t ? Quran: "All praise belongs to God, Lord of all the worlds indicates multiple universal bodies, and maybe even multiple universes, which may indicate extraterrestrial and even extra-dimensional life. According to Ahmadiyya Muslim Community more direct reference from the Quran is presented, they quotes verse 42:29 "And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and of whatever living creatures (da'bbah) He has spread forth in both..."; according to this verse there is life in heavens. According to the same verse "And He has the power to gather them together (jam-'i-him) when He will so please"; indicates the bringing together the life on Earth and the life elsewhere in the universe. Whats more Arabic term Jam-i-him used to express the gathering event can imply either a physical encounter or a contact through communication. Bible – Church of course never issued any formal pronouncement on the question of alien life , and nothing so directly written in Bible (?). But there were some “open minded” people like already in 1277, the Bishop of paris Etienne Tempier overturn Aristotle on one point: God could have created more than one world (given His omnipotence). Taking a further step, and arguing that aliens actually existed, remained rare. The Catholic Church has not made a formal ruling on existence of extraterrestrials. BUT, the astronomer, Father Gabriel Funes, director of the Vatican Observatory near Rome, said in 2008 that intelligent beings created by God could exist in outer space (sic! couldn believe they can admit even possibility) If you have find any more - share! __________________ "Imagine there is no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too..." Last edited by Stardust; 29-04-2009 at 06:28 PM.

04-05-2009, 10:05 AM	#2
Carson Junior Member Believer Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 8 Time Online: N/A Thanks: 0 Thx 0 Times in 0 Posts	alternative medicine facts Ancient accupuncture from China reveals that "some" people could see the Meridians and Accupuncture points. And the most common of them are 365 (as much as the days of the year!). From that point of view, "they"taught human beings what to do and how to proceed in certain cases. Every human being is composed from information+energy+phisical body. Any kind of disease has an information and energy which affect (more or less) the human physical body. Recentlly, archeologists discovered in ancient Dacia (former inhabitants of Romania) proofs about accupuncture needles made by silex so that it is almost unbelieveable that accupuncture existed in such different territories and any lecturer of accupuncture will tell you the same thing: there are teachings that belongs to an E.T. knowledge. Also, a great number of scientists believe that in Bucegi Mountains (from Romania) there is one of the three energetic centeres from Earth. Radiesthesy and long-distance therapy uses the colours of different human "envelopes" which means info (or infor)energetic body besides physical body as the lowest level of energy. Increasing the spirituality of the body, there will be an increasing of info(r)-energetic body and some certain subject will be able to increase and to be able to help others in need. Carlos Castaneda and his master Don Juan speak about the difference between "to look" and "to see" and the ways for achievment this special skill. Also in their experience, we are told about some different colours that we may "see" if we are able to. After years of long and exhausting trainning. This state of special mind is called by shrinks "modified states of consciousness" and it is "evidence prooved". Carl Gustav Jung (famous psychologist from Switzerland) made the connection between religion, radiesthesy and any kind of "unexplained" phenomenon by using the term of "sincronicity" meanind the outer information that may come into a human mind at a certain moment of looking for information. It may come or not, it depends on outer limits which we don't know and we can't control. In fortunate cases, the information will come when we need it, in a certain moment. What we have to learn is how we may access this information at the right moment and in the right time. For all the facts exposed above, I may declare myself a "believer".