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Old 14-08-2009, 12:11 AM   #1
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Angels are right now near you! They carry messeges between Good creator and he's creation.

They are pure life beings made out from divine light you can trust. They want to help but can do it only if they are asked.

They love all humans without discrimination and conditions. They are focusing only on our potential and do not judge our faults at all.

They do not care/mind if you believe in them or not. They believe in us without conditions.

You do not need to be religious of any kind, educated or not ... do something special or not to get in contact with angels.
They help whoever call them, no matter the problem, and do not ask for nothing in return. No tricks, no hidden pay.

Usually we have 2 Angels following us always and they are called guardian Angels. They are not spirits of close relatives or loved ones, they are Angels responsible for you. You might have more than 2 Angels guarding you because you have asked for many or other have asked on your behalf for you.

Angels appear in many religions or traditions but they are not bound by a specific belief. They are not related to any belief system and give their support to any person asking no matter if they believe in something or not.

They bring peace and light directly from God and cannot be impersonated (not the best term) by a lower spirit as you will feel there is no peace love and light there.

The law of free will says we (as in humans) have total free will and God and Angels cannot intervene. They know what is good for us but they need to obey free will law and do something for us only if they are asked.

They have unlimited resources, and help many in the same time, they are not distracted and is their duty to help us in finding peace. They are doing it because nothing is more important to them than helping us.

Why not all humans on Earth get saved and live well if Angels are helping us?
Angels help only people who ask them for help. Allot of people don't ask for help or if they ask they are not able to understand or see the answer send back to them. Or simply don't want to follow the advice because whatever reason.

Some people feel they cheat asking for Divine intervention, loosing free will.
We are responsible for our development and is not necessary to suffer in order to elevate our conscious (however this also being a way to do it) but with Angels advice and guidance we can find soul peace, a way to elevate ourself and inspire others to a path not possible if suffering.

If our request is not answered is most probably because the Angel guidance has not been herd, has been disregarded or it needs more time to build in a situation favorable.

How to ask for help: Speak your request clearly, write it down, think of your request, visualize it and finally thank Angels for their help. (be nice )
So is not important how you ask, is important what you ask.

Archangels are managing all Angels supervising all activities. They are bigger with powerful voice and have same love and dedication to people peace of soul.
They are called: Ariel, Azrael, Chamuel, Gavril, Haniel, Ieremiel, Iofiel, Metatron, Mihail, Rafael, Raguel, Raziel, Sandalfon, Uriel, Zadkiel and they each have specific duties and attributes.

These are short paragraphs from Angels 101 by Doreen Virtue a book I am reading.
Isn't this an description of beings not human at all? Nice is that they are helping us always.
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Why not all humans on Earth get saved and live well if Angels are helping us?
Angels help only people who ask them for help. Allot of people don't ask for help or if they ask they are not able to understand or see the answer send back to them.

Well - they could make answers more SIMPLE in that case

But coming to angels - u haven't explained much what is an angel's idea within the book you read. But from other sources (Kaballah etc) they are not coming as so nice and charming and only "peace & love" oriented beings.

And angels as a beings are more incorporated within religious structures. To some level accepting angles means accepting also ultimate devine force.

Wonder also if they indeed follow some request - do they really respect free will? or accept only those requests which are judged by them (or force ruling them) as a good for us? If they accept whatever we wish - they might be potential harming by "allowing to happen" things we want, but which impacts' we cannot fully predict.. On the other hand - if they act only in a way really good for us - they neglecting in fact our free will to ask for whatever we want...and learn by kick in the...knee

Taking above - i think they might have serious "internal missalignment' between what they suppose to do (only good things for us, knowing graeter, future perspective) vs. what they are request. So they dont act in 99% at all


Kabbalah POV on angels:
Angels were created before the earth was made, at the point when God said, "Let there be light." Angels were used in the creation of man and are envious of man's free will. There are good and bad angels, but bad angels doesnt mean in here the fallen one, or evil beings. A realm. Fallen angels are seen more as negative messengers (angelos = messanger).

Angels are the intermediaries between the upper worlds and earth and oversee everything that occurs on earth. And they brings specific topics: we have angels are of "Grace, healing, justice, love, mercy, moon, mountains, Paradise, peace, praise, stars, trees, truth, and water. But there are also angels of confusion, destruction, fear, fire, hail, insomnia, reptiles, storms, terror, and thunder." (nice balanced team isn't ) .

And BTW there is nice story about creation of a man in inlc angels interventions (i post it below)

Bible POV on angels:
They are by God as messengers, warriors, and servants. Angels are spiritual beings without bodies of flesh and bones, though they apparently have the ability to appear in human form (Gen. 19:1-22). Angels had many functions. They praised God (Psalm 103:20), served as messengers to the world (Luke 1:11-20, 26-38; Luke 2:9-14), watched over God's people (not ALL people) (Psalm 91:11-12), and were sometimes instruments of God's judgment (Matt. 13:49-50).
The Bible tells us that God created the angels and that at some time in the distant past there was a rebellion in heaven and many of the angels fell. Apparently, it was the elect angels that did not fall (1 Tim. 5:21). The Bible says that angels were created by Christ (Col. 1:16), that they carry out the will of God (Psalm 103:20; Matt. 6:10), they worship God and Christ (Phil. 2:9-11; Heb. 1:6), are wise (2 Sam. 14:20), mighty (Psalm 103:20), holy (Matt. 25:31), and innumerable, (Heb. 12:22). However, angels are not to be worshipped (Col. 2:18; Rev. 19:10; 22:9) since they are creatures.

And last but not least - if you want something - you shall pray and ask - but NOT angels - but his creator, God, who apparently might agre with you and send an angel to help You ....

So again - angel shappen to be in a way we WANT to be.. depending on beliefs they come in different sources and approaches. So maybe are still only another illusion of diluted mind ;]



Angels and Man creation:
The Midrash [a compilation of Jewish commentaries of the Old Testament Scriptures that was gathered between 400 and 1200 A.D.] says that angels debated whether or not human beings should be part of creation. The angel of love felt that it would be a good idea to have humans in this creation because of our potential for expressing love; the angel of truth was opposed to human beings because we tend to tell lies. During this debate, God exhibited examples of humans for Angels to see, but included only well-known characters from biblical lore... next, the angel of Earth rebelled and would not give the Arctic angel Gabriel in the dust for God to create humankind. The angel of Earth protested that the physical earth would be cursed and devastated because of human thoughtlessness; it insisted that God take personal responsibility rather than send an Arctic angel as an intermediary...
"God revealed in the future to Adam and Eve in a book given to them in the Garden of Eden by the hand of the angel Raziel (secrets of God). This book contained sacred knowledge: 72 branches of wisdom that revealed the formation of 670 inscriptions of higher mysteries. In the middle of the book was a secret writing explaining 1500 keys to the universe, which were not revealed even to the holy angels....
"Adam and Eve obtained this book...
"When Adam and Eve transgressed the commandments of the Master regarding the Tree of Knowledge, the book flew away from them. Adam was so distressed, he entered the river Gihon (one of the rivers of the garden) up to his neck and stayed there so that his body became wrinkled and his face haggard...
"God thereupon made a sign to the Archangel Raphael to return the book, which Adam studied for the rest of his life. He left it to his son Seth, and it went through the generations to Abraham. It is still hidden today, somewhere in the world, for those who know how to read it."

by David Cooper's God is a Verb
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Angels appear in many religions or traditions but they are not bound by a specific belief. They are not related to any belief system and give their support to any person asking no matter if they believe in something or not.

They bring peace and light directly from God ...
there is some missmatch in here... if they are not "bound" by any beliefs connection, God shall not exist as well...? Or in other words - they are connected with some "belief" - maybe existing one doesns't descrbe in 100% the real "boundaries"- but still some some "system" in which angels' are living exist
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when talking about angels i think also about some accidents in life that alwyas brings feeling 'somebody watched for U over your shoulders'...



Have you ever "experienced" situations (maybe not that drastic like the one above) when you really felt somebody guarded or guided you ?......
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